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Originally Posted by mushroomsatsuji  Scientists know very little about our own solar system, so we cant really expect them to know where the center of the galaxy is. |
I'm sorry, that's a rather strange statement to make. We know vast amounts about our solar system and have sent endless probes to investigate all the planets, most of the moons in it. We have two probes sent out over 30 years ago which have long since actually left our solar system, that have sent back vast amounts of data abou it. Via these and other probes we know the weight, size, much of the composition, orbit, etc of all planets and msot moons. We know increasing amounts about Saturn, Mars and the Moon with every passing month. Really, we know lots...
So, what you're saying is that the 'Mayans' were capable of deciding where the galactic centre was even though there isn't one, as there's nothing to denote a centre, either in terms of light, or object density - but we can't? Are you aware of the amazing observational animations (not mock-ups) we have now of the central region of our galaxy, which shows all of the black holes, all the incredible detail in X-ray, microwave and infra-red? We probably know more about the Milky Way than we do about Pluto. I think a quick tour round the APOD site might be of interest to you
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As it's always been. 2012 may be bad, but whatever happens in the politics in that year isn't due to the position of the earth. Quote:
Originally Posted by mushroomsatsuji Its a separate issue |
Actually, it's not.
Not ignoring the usual cut and thrust of world disasters and politics that take place every single year is highly relevant. If we don't take it into account then we could easily pick on
any year and say that it was somehow worse than others, when in fact, each year is pretty much the same apart from when we're involved in a world war. Anyone who didn't take it into account would be misleading themselves.
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TBH I don't think that a superstitious method of divination is proof of the end of the world, or an any more reasonable than the 2012 'shift'. Could you provide a link? Quote:
Originally Posted by mushroomsatsuji It was featured in a History Channel special of 2012 |
Riiiiight....You do know that not all of their shows are accurate and do tend towards showing prog's that are a little off the wall to get viewers. One bloke who says he's done an I-Ching chart isn't really proof of him or his methods or even the validity of the I-Ching itself.
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You'll probably have already read the link Sikander posted in S+P showing that the calendar was miscalculated and the end isn't due for another two hundred years. It's not looking good for it as a theory, I have to say.
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Originally Posted by mushroomsatsuji Not surprising. No one even knows what the Mayans were doing with the calendar anyway. |
We have many scholars who know the Mayan calendar - and the Mayans themselves - inside out. I have to wonder though, so far you've said we know nothing of the solar system or the galaxy, know nothing of the mayans or their calandar, pole shifts, astronomy and other things that we do actually know a lot about. I find it very hard to believe that you aren't aware of the advances and knowledge we have concerning these things, and TBH it sounds like a purposeful rubbishing of our knowledge so you can play the 'science doesn't know everything' card to support what you believe. If you really don't know these things there's a whole wonderful world out there that's far more interesting than Sitchin, Tsarion, Hancock, Icke and all the other doomsday nutcases put together, you would love it.
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Originally Posted by mushroomsatsuji Im just waiting to see how people are going to react around 2012... |
I can't wait. I wonder what all the woo-woos will do to back themselves out of nothing happening? But your statement, as others you've made, tries to imply that you have foreknowledge, and yet you can't say what's meant to take place?
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