[with_his_author]

Originally Posted by IGotTheCottons

But you're an idiot if you think any one of those verses backs up smoking weed for recreational use.

Well Frankly I'm glad you started this debate because as I wrote before this ministry will not be stopped and this will be the proof. So frankly thanks for helping me prove my point.

Originally Posted by IGotCottons

What about Ephesians 5:18 "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;"

This was not the best verse to try and prove me wrong. It is easily dismissed when I use this verse:

Proverbs 31:6-7

Give beer to those who are perishing, wine to those who are in anguish let them drink and for get their misery no more.

The Bible tells people to give wine and beer away. So the Bible says drinking is ok but being a drunkard is not ok. Every pot head knows that they have to smoke a whole lot in order to be truly uncontroled. So just as drinking is ok in moderation smoking is ok in moderation. I personaly have never been not in control while I smoke. In fact all my friends have never been out of their control, I think a person would have to be pretty weak minded if they couldn't control themselves on cannabis.

Originally Posted by IGotCotton

We're not to be drunk with wine because that diminishes the Spirit's control over us.

We are not talking about wine we are talking about cannabis but for some reason people like yourself seem to clump the two together. WHY? Two totaly different experiences but if clumping the two together will help you prove a point I'll let you do it.

Originally Posted by IGotCotton

If God doesn't want us getting drunk, what makes you think it's acceptable in His eyes for us to get stoned?

Simple, I'm not drunk when I smoke. Not to mention just because God doesn't want us to be drunk doesn't mean he doesn't want us to sample. I've proven that difference by posting the Prov. scripture. Drinking doesn't mean drunk, smoking doesn't mean uncontroled.

Originally Posted by IGotCotton

Also, What about our bodies being the temples of the Holy Spirit?

I love when you people try this one. Help prove my point, get up walk out side. By stepping out side you just damaged your body. The air out side is not healthy for humans to breath because why? Car, Factories, Jets, ETC. Do me another favor, walk to your frifge and get a staek out. If you eat that steak it is damaging your body cause why? Red Meat. Thats not healthy for you. Do me another favor go to your microwave and heat something up. Thats not heathly. It's proven to be unheathly because of the radio waves. So no matter what you do your body is being damaged. But those are ok to you, WHY? Of course I already covered that:

Originally Posted by with_his_author

3) THE BODY DIES

1 Corinthians 15:50

I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

We live in a vessel or a seed how every you view your body. Once it dies the body is put in the ground and like a seed we take our true form.

Originally Posted by IGotCotton

Smoking anything defiles your body due to the damage it causes to your lungs.

I've already covered that topic, I just wanted to post that again to reillustrate
my point. Everything hurts the body why be picky and single out cannabis.

Originally Posted by IGotCotton

The Bible makes it clear that if we're going to teach the Bible, we're going to be held at a higher level of accountability, and be judged more strictly than those who don't.

I am fully awar of that. Thats why I never stray from preaching Jesus Christ. Notice I already talked about that aswell:

Originally Posted by with_his_author

4) WHAT DO YOU PREACH

Philippians 1:18

But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

Some preachers in the churchs have false motives but like the verse says at least the word is being taught. The same can be said about a Christian THC-MINISTER we have motives to correct what needs to be corrected but we are always to preach about Salvation through Jesus Christ doing so the Christian world should leave us alone but of course they don't so we cannabis ministers have to make up long documents like this one.

Acts 5:39

But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God."

Since I believe we are from God this Ministry we will not be stopped. Thats a fact. I've been on five different Christian web sites and have had five same conclusions no one can stop the christian THC-MINISTRY because we speak the truth straight out of the Bible. Attitudes will be changed and the time is now to change them.

1 John 2:27

As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

What was in the annointing oil? Thats right CANNABIS. Anyways Christ is our teacher. Abide in him and he will give you all the answers just as he has given me all the scriptures and the way to use them. Faith in Jesus because he can do anything.

I guess you didn't have enough time to read my post since you didn't have the time to post about all my scripture. Oh well your loss, of the debate that is.

Originally Posted by IGotCotton

My point is: Make sure you know what you're talking about before you go around spreading lies like this.

So what lies, I haven't been stopped by you. I guess that just proves my point, huh.

Originally Posted by IGotCotton

Your ministry, my friend, is not of God.

I beg to differ, I spread the good news, I encourage people, I help people, I teach people, etc. Just because I use cannabis as a tool for my ministry you feel it's not from God. Who do you think made cannabis? If God made it why wouldn't he want us to enjoy it. Here let me bring up a Bible quote to prove that point:

1 Timothy 6:17

....but put your hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment.

Originally Posted by IGotCotton

And if you have a problem with me saying that - to bad. I, myself, am a Christian, and I know my Bible.

Not well enough I guess. Study up, look into it yourself, God will show you the answer.

Originally Posted by IGotCotton

If you want to argue with me, that's fine...

SWEET!!!

Originally Posted by IGotCotton

But I'm telling you now, the Bible in no way endorses smoking weed for pleasure/recreation

I believe I've proven you wrong on that topic. Just one last thing:

Originally Posted by with_his_author

Colossians 2:20-23

Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

Read that very carefully it proves everything you said to be wrong.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ