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Old 07-08-2004, 03:26 PM
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oh dear oh dear.
some people could really really do with reading this. http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secA1.html

"As an anarchist at heart I don't think an anarchist society exists beyond the fittest and strongest survive and rule.
Think Mad Max and that's pretty much anarchy."

true anarchy yes, i agree, and have said similar things many times... but if we take it a notch or two away from the extreme, from the absolute... we see a far healthier and robust society.


Corn-Dog, i really hope you delve into that link i gave.
competition is not the only way to create drive, we only think it is because that is the nature of all that we have ever known having grown up being spoon fed capitalism and competition from birth. it's just as feasable that someone could say much the same as you said saying it wouldnt work because it doesnt have Allah's blessing as taught in the koran.

" IN your society there is no reason space exploration would be possibe."

ok, i suppose your right... survival of the species and the betterment of humankind and the journy of knowledge is no reason at all. btw, i am a trekkie, it was growing up watching star trek that is probably responsible for my dreaming of a better future. (thankyou Gene Roddenberry)

agreed that survival is a necessity to acheive this, however, it is also the reason for space exploration. Earth isnt going to be safe forever. there will be huge astronomical cataclismic events that will lead to this planet's downfall. do we want to be sat here twiddling our thumbs when it comes? be it collision or the death of our star, earths doom is fairly inevitable. its not just War or "major world conflict" that could prevent us from ever reaching the stars...
i wonder if you realise that it is precisely the unchecked competition to create drive that has caused the greatest threat to survival of nearly all life on earth ever. that same competition that has caused our beloved herb to be outlawed. the world is on the brink of environmental anihilation... we wont see 30 years time without some serious radical change in our ways very very soon.

check out this (you really need to watch it to see whats going on, rather than just reading the crappy transcript) http://www.moveon.org/gore3/webcast.html

anyways... this is all getting off the point. i was rather hoping for some discussion about how it COULD be achieved, not how it couldn't.

Last edited by Digit; 07-08-2004 at 03:29 PM.
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