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Originally posted by Mr Skinner
Sorry to say, cottons, but ya lost me after the first couple of sentences. No offence, but that was way too long 'n boring. Come on...anyone with his eyes open could make a prophecy that there will be war between nations. That there will be earthquakes 'n pestillence. Don't have to be a prophet to do that.
And there have been wars, pestillence, famine and all kinds of shit BEFORE WW1 (Actually, I don't think there has been ONE day since however long without at least one war). So yer prophecies actually have come true time and time again. Still the world hasn't ended.
To me personally these "end of the world-prophecies" are no different than those of Jehovas w's and those thousand other dooms days that have passed without anything happening.
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Obviously you need to read these a little more carefully. It didn't say war, pestilence, famine, and earthquakes in general. What it actually said was "all these." That means that all those things have to happen at the same time. Not only do they have to be all at the same time, but they have to be the worst in history. Please, read these very carefully before making comments.
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Just because the Jews are gathering in Palestine, that doesn't mean it's a prophet becoming fulfilled.
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It's not that they've regathered. It's the things it says that will happen during this regathering. The Bible predicts that they'll be dispersed twice before they were actually dispersed the first time. These writings were found until after the event. You see, the general population of Israel didn't believe these prophecies either, so the writings were viewed as sacred, or God inspired by most people. God spoke to the prophets, they wrote them down (and told the people of the nation what was said also), and these writings were found later on in history after the reinhabitations occured. So tell me again, how were the people using the scriptures and saying it was Bible? Also, how do you explain the 2 nations being re-united and ruled by one king, and how it actually happened? And also, how do you explain the fact that Israel started regathering shortly after WWI. Also, how do you explain why it says "all these things" later on in Matthew 24, after talking about the regenerating fig tree (which represents Israel), and the 4-fold prophecy. It says all those things will happen at the same time (the worst war, the worst pestilences, and the worst famines and earthquakes the world has ever seen, accompanied by the begining of a rejuvinated Israel), and they actually happened.
The worst war the world has ever seen, was shortly followed by not only the worst famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in history, but the regeneration of Israel being taken place, the 2 nations being re-united, and a single ruler being the ruler of the entire nation of Israel. This is the exact thing that was predicted in the Bible.
You can't really use the "anyone could have said that and been right at least some time in the future because those things happen all the time." Try reading these posts carefully, and really listening to what they're saying. The prophet didn't predict wars, famines, earthquakes, and pestilence occuring at some time during history. He predicted them to all happen at the same time, and be the worst in history. This happened between 1914 and 1920. He also predicted that Israel would regather shortly after, or during the same period of time that these events happened. This happened, exactly the way scripture predicted it would (the two Jerusalems thing spoken of earlier). Try opening your eyes and really reading these posts. I know they're long, but a lot of this is complicated, and linked in with a lot of other prophecy. It takes a while to explain some of it sufficiently. Also, it's good to give a lot of scripture verses that are specific. Just helps prove my point better.