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Originally Posted by Zonyc  Of course the same effect can be achieved without cigarettes; more so, however? NO. As you know, when you smoke, you are inhaling, and exhaling considerably more than you would normally.
I'm really not bashing you here, if it seems that way, just trying to clarify. 
To the OP, smoking around your plants is fine. |
Well then. I won't argue with the captain biology here. I will however reiterate my belief that smoking is not good for your plants. A simple test with a control would be an easy tell-all (which i'm sure has been done by many). perhaps yourself. Care to share your results?
Here's a more reputable source supporting my belief that cigarette smoke is bad for plants, and yes, this time i read it. LOL. --->
http://cahe.nmsu.edu/ces/yard/2001/020301.html
^^it's the second question down^^. So it seems some rather astute individuals share my opinions. Maybe they just need to have it laid out for them as well.
The link you posted, albeit quite interesting, is no more relevant than mine in relation to the topic. The spider plant is no more a part of the group dicotyledons than spinach, and even less of an equal candidate for comparison due to it's particularly robust nature and being "very tolerant to neglect". Not to mention those studies are 20 years old, So.........
As for my comparison of cleaning oil from your hands being similar to cleaning tar from walls, both are rather difficult and thus the criteria for comparison. I never said that the processes shared the same molecular roadmap, or abatement regimen. That's reading quite a ways further into the issue than most of us
laymen are concerned with. But no less appreciated. And if you thought that was over my head, well just take a look at the wind burn on the OPs' dome. LOL.
As for the study i linked, i did state that it was the first google result for "cigarette smoke and plants", hinting that it's not hard to find studies on it.
Also, i figured i'd at least make an attempt at pointing to a source. Something i thought was missing from all of the opinions drifting about.
You may attack my source. You may point out my inaccuracies. But you may not question my intentions. However coarse my post/s may have been, they were all pretty benign and quite a bit less invasive than some of the other advice wafting through this thread.
I realize that plants of just about any variety will scrub carbon monoxide (and many other gaseous pollutants) from the air, but that's not the question. The question is "is it better for the plants than not"? Plus, what do you suppose happens to all the particulate matter mixed in with the smoke? Just more happy gas? Lol.
I also realize that dicots, in most cases, have more stomata on the under epidermis than they do on the top, but that's still not proof that smoking is good for your plants, nor does it negate/disprove the theory that it will stick on both sides. My ceiling has plenty of tar on it. The floor, not so much. Go figure.
If Stomata are used for gas exchange and lungs are used for gas exchange, how is that not a valid comparison?
I apologize for suggesting such unreasonable solutions as removing your smoking activities from your grow. Your sound reasoning combined with your superior knowledge of all things great and small surely proves that smoking cigarettes with your plants is good for them. Just kidding, c'mon now.
Maybe you should start a thread about the benefits of tobacco smoke in your garden. What has the horticultural community been waiting for? Let's get with the times.
Another joke, if that's OK.
I applaud your literary whip (it stings), as well as your, apparently, extensive botanical & biological intellect, but i doubt either has much affect on the OP smoking in his grow room.
Really, it's OK if you want to smoke in your garden..... honest. But you won't catch me doing it till a reputable author suggests it.
I wonder if Shantibaba would mind if came over to smoke up his grow? LMAO. Maybe we could both go to double the effect and help the poor guy out already. Put a few packs in a leaf blower and lookout super healthy plants. If you say so. Lol.
I respectfully agree that if an intelligence quotient was measured in "fish in the bucket", you'd be bringing home more than i. I humbly bow to your fishing prowess. But my advice was based on good 'ol common sense, and again, considerably less invasive than yours. IMO.
Maybe you thought my original post was somehow "calling you out" due to my quoting you, but quite the opposite is true. You felt wounded, i get that. Retaliation, successful however... unnecessary. I was hoping for more participation as far as specificity and impartial sources were concerned. Which kinda happened. Thanx. Your 1st post was just so vague i had to call you on it for my own need to know. Again, sorry. Now that you've had a chance to exercise your excess wisdom, you're welcome, and thanx for stopping in.
BTW, can i just assume the answer to the question i asked you in post #15 is "no". I actually would like to know. Believe it or not.
+rep for being a know-it-all.
Take it easy bro.