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Originally Posted by ricard0  ??????? Really ???????
Couldn't the same benefit be had without the cigarette? Maybe more so?
Personally (since i'm no botanist), neither can i. But i can at least point to a source for information on the subject, speculation not included. ---> http://www.stemnet.nf.ca/d6vsatf2000/s6/p3/
First google result for "cigarette smoke and plants"
Does it now?
I'd like to know ---> If you've always smoked in your grow room, how do you know it doesn't affect them? 
I'd at least try one grow with the same gear & strain to know for sure whether or not it was posing a risk or having a negative affect. - All that gunk on your gear can't be fun. 
I'm really not bashing you here, if it seems that way, just trying to clarify.  |
Of course the same effect can be achieved without cigarettes; more so, however? NO. As you know, when you smoke, you are inhaling, and exhaling considerably more than you would normally. This amounts in an increased CO2 concentration in the air, combined with the combustion of the tobacco or whatever you're smoking, this equates to much more CO2 being released than normal respiration.
Did you read the link you posted? You do realize that the specimen is a spinach plant... right? Ok, I wont bother with this one, but i'll supply you with an equally arbitrary study. Here is the observation from their experiment.
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The test concluded that highly toxic levels of carbon monoxide were reduced to non-toxic levels in 24 hours by one spider plant (Chlorophytum comosum). Therefore, more than 96% of the carbon monoxide was removed.
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Feel free to take a look at the link; it was a test conducted by NASA
http://www.flowers.org.uk/plants/hea...on-removal.htm
The study you linked to is conducted by students who didn't even bother to conduct the test with any controls, there was also no conclusion, nor any information based on observation. I'm sure they didn't have any access to air quality meters, either. Nice try though.
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Originally Posted by ricard0 Has anyone here ever washed a wall or window of a smokers place? It is not pretty. Think -> Cleaning oil or grease off your hands, it ain't easy.
Over time all that tar in the smoke will accumulate on just about everything, including your plants. Clogging and choking them to some degree. Not to mention the Carbon Monoxide. And yes, i'm a smoker....... i just go outside to smoke. Then my place doesn't smell like an ashtray either.
I'm no Oncologist, but if smoking kills people, what do you think it will do to the plants?
The Stomata on the leaves are kinda like lungs and actually breathe for the plant. They don't work so well when clogged, kinda like humans. Why would you force your babies to cope with any unnecessary stress? Are you that uninspired to grow?
Ever been to a breeders room or a greenhouse for that matter? I doubt they smoke in there.
Of course, you've got the choice to affect your plants any way you see fit. I prefer to treat them with great care.
I'm not saying "you won't be able to grow and smoke in your room".
I am saying "Do you think your plants want to smoke"? Just my $.02 |
I really, really appreciate you coming into this thread and spewing your brilliantly composed, yet utterly nonsense scientific knowledge. Your knowledge has no scientific basis and is really just hearsay. Now in my original post, I spared the scientific and technical details of why I didnt thing smoke harmed plants, but let me lay it out for you.
Cleaning oil and grease from your hands is COMPLETELY different than cleaning tar from a wall. Let me explain this to you. Intra-molecular forces are attractive forces that hold particles together with ionic, covalent, and metallic bonds. Inter-molecular forces are attractive forces among or between particles, called dispersion forces, dipole-dipole forces, and hydrogen bonds.
Hydrogen bonds are the strongest bonds, and dispersion bonds are the WEAKEST. Take water for example the molecular formula is H20. This means that you have two oxygen atoms surrounding the hydrogen atom with a double bond. This means that water sticks to it's self, or is very COHESIVE. Oil on the other hand, is ADHESIVE meaning that it does not stick to it's self; oil is non-polar, and thus the forces that hold it together are dispersion forces - the weakest. This is why oil sticks to it's self. Your comparison of removing oil or grease from your hands and removing tar from a wall is like comparing a giraffe to a tennis ball. Now, I'm sure you have experience with mixing oil and water together, right? You know that they don't mix. I'm sure that you're aware that the plant uses transpiration for various functions. Again, you have the oil and water effect occurring on the leaves, thus removing any build up.
The stomata on a plant is nothing like lungs. Yes they may be analogous, but thats where the similarities end. The stomata is covered by guard cells called parenchyma which regulate the opening and closing. Thats right, guard cells! what a concept, a cell that guards the stomata! Who woulda thunk it? Additionally, cannabis is a dicot, which contain more parenchyma and stomata on the lower part of the epidermis, rather than upper. So now this exhaled smoke enters your grow room, is then heated by the ambient air and rises to the top of the room, where it is then removed. I'll let you do the math.
I'm really not bashing you here, if it seems that way, just trying to clarify.
To the OP, smoking around your plants is fine.