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Old 08-07-2008, 03:58 AM
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Re: God/Jesus/religion enough is enough

Rom. 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"

^ that is correct


Rom. 5:19 "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners,..."

^ half the verse

Rom. 5:19 "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners,so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

^ full verse


1 Cor. 15:22 "For as in Adam all die, ..."

^ half verse

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

^ full verse

Deut. 24:16 "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers

real verse,different meaning

this is dealing with legal matters within the Jewish court.
As a further note on this issue, there is a concept in the Bible called Federal Headship. This means that the male, the father, represents the family. We see this in the garden of Adam and Eve. She was the first one to eat the fruit;so she was the first one to sin. However, the Bible states that sin entered the world through Adam (Rom. 5), not Eve. This is because Adam was the Federal Head of all mankind.


2 Chron.25:54

Their is no such verse

(2 Kings 14:6)

real verse half truth

This is talking about a story of a king who killed the people who killed his dad,but he refused to kill the children of the murders because it says that dads should not be put to death because of kids and kids should not be put to death because of their dads,but every man should be put to death for their own sin.



Ezek. 18:20
real verse half truth

It does not mention what the other verses before it were stating.Its a story about the evil soul of a father.The evil father was corrupt and fulled by greed and immorality.Well the child saw what the dad was doing and did not like any of the things he was doing.The child did the exact opposite of his father(gave to the poor,gave free stuff.etc),thats when this comes from "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."

then it goes on to say "But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live."


Rom. 2:6 "Who will render to every man according to his deeds."

real verse different meaning

Its not talking about original sin,its talking about something completed different.In fact its talking about the corruption of man in our society and begins to list the qualities of the good.


ya i really don't want to read the rest..i want to go see pineapple express so ill check back here later.


o btw that one verse Ezek. 18:4 "... the soul that sinneth, it shall die."
is part of that father/son story and it skipped all the way to the end of the sentence.

"Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die."

This means that everyone belongs to God,including the son.Those that do evil will die.
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