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Old 05-07-2008, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CosmicSerpent View Post
You make some good points, but that's the only major part I disagree with. ^^

Also, the webpage you posted is incorrect. The U.S. constitution says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

In the 1898 case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, the Supreme Court ruled that a person born within the territorial boundaries of the United States is eligible for birthright citizenship regardless of the nationality of his or her parents. The only exceptions to this rule identified in Wong Kim Ark concern diplomats, enemy forces in hostile occupation of the United States, and members of Native American tribes. The exclusion of Native Americans was eliminated by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.

Neither in that decision nor in any subsequent case has the Supreme Court explicitly ruled on whether children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents are entitled to birthright citizenship via the Amendment, although it has generally been assumed that they are. In some cases the Court has implicitly assumed, or suggested in dicta, that such children are entitled to birthright citizenship: these include INS v. Rios-Pineda and Plyler v. Doe. Legislation to exclude children of illegal immigrants is often proposed by individual members of Congress but has never been passed into law.

Sources:
http://books.google.com/books?id=-_8...gfEwxv7ZH7Uwlc
http://books.google.com/books?id=yTA...og9wxFCVlHwcSA


Also, I don't understand why people keep going on and on about Ron Paul... he's out of the race. Whether or not he was a good candidate, it doesn't really matter anymore. In November the American people are going to have to choose between two major candidates, and Ron Paul won't be one of them. You can say that Obama's policies go against the constitution, and that Ron Paul is the only one who doesn't, but you would also have to say that every single candidate we've had in recent history has gone against the constitution.
If you listen to Ron Paul in interviews, what he says about the "revolution" is that it's a personal one for all Americans. And Ron Paul likes Obama's foreign policy. That's to teamochi.

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