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pokernaut · #10 (**permalink**) 04-16-2008, 02:25 AM

no, not legendary vietnamese blackseed. lien huanh which, if memory serves me right is vietnamese black X haze and is really trippy, but the C99s only have a tiny bit of LH so for all practical purposes it's really just a C99 knockoff. it's really a shame that the whole commercial grow thing (i hate indicas for thisreaon too) made so many IBL sativas extinct... columbian gold, panama red, acopulco gold, thai, vietnamese blackseed, cambodian & kerala among others. imagine the trippy shit that we could all be growing now if all if the GOOD strains still existed instead of most sativa strains being based on watered down mexican sativas (haze). shit! i just tried to go to reeferman because i couldn't remember cambodian and now see that all of the sativas he had just a few months ago are gone! FUCK! he had some awesome sounding cambodian and vietnamese crosses. man, someone should create a seedbank just selling the sativa IBLs for us amateurs who don't know anyone with rare cuttings.

anyways, onto my update

tuesday 4-15-08
i'm starting to stress a little bit. in the past two days, not one of the later batches of beans has sprouted except possibly a C99. i'm hoping that they didn't die from the soil drying out two days ago. i've taken all of the plants that haven't sprouted yet out out from under the light & fan where they'll retain water better.

so far, these are the plants that have sprouted OK. the cali-Os, bubblicious & lowdown mysteries were all 100%. the A11s are 3 for 4 and i have 1 each burmese and kali mist. i hope to see the rest of my strains show up soon. if i don't see any new sprouts by next week, i'll soak some more beans.

thought you might like a higher res pic here

actually, two burmese sprouted, but one of them looks like it could be waterlogged. it doesn't look healthy. maybe that was one of the cracked shells.

i'm hoping that maybe the beans that haven't sprouted are just thirsty. i soaked the first batch a full two days and poked the seeds to the bottom on the 2nd day while the rest were just soaked 1 to 1 1/2 days and plucked from the surface. i was worried that 2 days was too long and that i was drowning the beans, but now i remember that the proper technique IS the 48 hour "soak & poke" method. all i can do now is keep the soil moist and hope that eventually the stragglers pop. i bet a nickel the mixed sativas didn't dry out. they take a good week and a half to pop even with 48 hours of soaking.
i just have to let nature take it's course and stay optimistic.

i'm guessing that the 1st sprouts will be ready for flowering in just a couple weeks, if that. i bought a second shoplight yesterday and prepped the spare room's window. i can't flower in my bedroom closet because of massive light leakage. even with the 1st shoplight mostly blocked by mylar, the closet lights my bedroom up like a nightlight.
putting the mylar up over the window was a major pain in the ass! i thought i could just tape it up with 2 inch masking tape. nah-uh. the damn walls have a speckled texture that the tape won't stick to worth shit!

i ended up having to prop the mylar up with boxes after i created a crease in the top to go over the curtain with boxes. tacking it up was a real job. i had to use a thumb tack about every 3 inches for a piece of mylar that's 4 feet high by 8 1/2 long! because it's basically bubble wrap, it didn't want to let the tacks go all the way in and spit a few dozen of them back out.

i backed each tack up with a little square of 3/4 inch masking tape hopefully to keep the mylar from tearing. it weighs practically nothing, but it doesn't like bending or flattening. between some tacks getting spit out, others breaking and some that just didn't want to go in where i wanted them, my thumb was freakin' sore by the time i was done.

it was worth it though. when i checked it from outside last night, i saw no leakage at all and the curtains looked normal. this morning i went back to double check leakage with more powerful sunlight and saw only one little leak that i fixed with a tack in the gap. other than that, there were only the tiniest hairline leaks and those are probably from light being reflected back and forth between the mylar and white wall to the seams which are all at least half a foot over the window frame. to be safe i'll just go over the seam either with the 2 inch blue masking tape i originally bought to tape the mylar up or see if i can find some black tape. i could also use low tech tin foil if i have to.

i don't think light leakage will really be an issue. what little light that might escape would be so dim as to not even show up against the city lights. i'm just hoping that the mylar settles to it's new shape and doesn't push any more tacks out. with a few hundred tacks pushing it in, i think it will hold. if nothing else, sealing the perimeter with blue tape should give it an extra bit of holding. i'll get pics of the setup before i move the grow in there. right now my thumb is sore and i don't want to look at that cause of a couple hours of misery just yet. LOL

now, i think it might have been better to build the cardboard lightbox frame i had considered. i could have just hung it on the curtain rod and easily pulled it down if the landlord ever comes by. hopefully if he does now, i'll just tell him that i'm trying to insulate the room from cold with the heat off and he'll by it. i have a ton of boxes of stuff to put in there to make it look like a storage room if necessary. in fact, i need to move those same boxes out of the way when it's time to use it for the grow.

BTW here's where all of the beans in the grow came from:

Spice Brothers
C99 Splash $30-$35
(A11g X Lien Huanh) X A11g $55

Serious Seeds
Kali Mist $105

Soma's Sacred Seeds
Buddha's Sister $110 (possibly crossed with G13 Haze per the little note on the package. SHIT! i wanted PURE Buddha's Sister for my own breeding even if G13 haze is ass kicking shit too)

Vancouver Island Seedbank
Burmese $55

Sativa Seedbank
Mixed Sativa $20 one named strain and not the mix of several that i thought it was. i REALLY wanted their mexican sativa and thought i'd get a couple of those. it's all good though. they only cost $20 and this strain is DEFINATELY a sativa)

High Quality Seeds
Haze Skunk $25

Nirvana
Bubblicious $17
California Orange Skunk $17
Pure Power Plant $17

Doctor Chronic
Troublemaker (freebies with 1st C99 Splash order)

Flumpy's
Lowdown Mystery (doc freebies with Buddha's Sister order)

both batches of durban skunk (SADP x skunk #1) freebies that i got with my nirvana & kali mist orders from seedboutique were 0% viable. i'd read somewhere that they are over 10 years old. i got good deals on the beans that i bought and fast shipping, but it would have been nice to get some compact 87.5% sativa. after the 1st batch failed, it inspired me to place the haze skunk order with doc.

i got the burmese from kindseed.com. they had the best price i could find and neither doc nor gypsy had it. got my beans in 9 days there.

#10 (permalink) 04-16-2008, 02:25 AM
pokernaut Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,045	no, not legendary vietnamese blackseed. lien huanh which, if memory serves me right is vietnamese black X haze and is really trippy, but the C99s only have a tiny bit of LH so for all practical purposes it's really just a C99 knockoff. it's really a shame that the whole commercial grow thing (i hate indicas for thisreaon too) made so many IBL sativas extinct... columbian gold, panama red, acopulco gold, thai, vietnamese blackseed, cambodian & kerala among others. imagine the trippy shit that we could all be growing now if all if the GOOD strains still existed instead of most sativa strains being based on watered down mexican sativas (haze). shit! i just tried to go to reeferman because i couldn't remember cambodian and now see that all of the sativas he had just a few months ago are gone! FUCK! he had some awesome sounding cambodian and vietnamese crosses. man, someone should create a seedbank just selling the sativa IBLs for us amateurs who don't know anyone with rare cuttings. anyways, onto my update tuesday 4-15-08 i'm starting to stress a little bit. in the past two days, not one of the later batches of beans has sprouted except possibly a C99. i'm hoping that they didn't die from the soil drying out two days ago. i've taken all of the plants that haven't sprouted yet out out from under the light & fan where they'll retain water better. so far, these are the plants that have sprouted OK. the cali-Os, bubblicious & lowdown mysteries were all 100%. the A11s are 3 for 4 and i have 1 each burmese and kali mist. i hope to see the rest of my strains show up soon. if i don't see any new sprouts by next week, i'll soak some more beans. thought you might like a higher res pic here actually, two burmese sprouted, but one of them looks like it could be waterlogged. it doesn't look healthy. maybe that was one of the cracked shells. i'm hoping that maybe the beans that haven't sprouted are just thirsty. i soaked the first batch a full two days and poked the seeds to the bottom on the 2nd day while the rest were just soaked 1 to 1 1/2 days and plucked from the surface. i was worried that 2 days was too long and that i was drowning the beans, but now i remember that the proper technique IS the 48 hour "soak & poke" method. all i can do now is keep the soil moist and hope that eventually the stragglers pop. i bet a nickel the mixed sativas didn't dry out. they take a good week and a half to pop even with 48 hours of soaking. i just have to let nature take it's course and stay optimistic. i'm guessing that the 1st sprouts will be ready for flowering in just a couple weeks, if that. i bought a second shoplight yesterday and prepped the spare room's window. i can't flower in my bedroom closet because of massive light leakage. even with the 1st shoplight mostly blocked by mylar, the closet lights my bedroom up like a nightlight. putting the mylar up over the window was a major pain in the ass! i thought i could just tape it up with 2 inch masking tape. nah-uh. the damn walls have a speckled texture that the tape won't stick to worth shit! i ended up having to prop the mylar up with boxes after i created a crease in the top to go over the curtain with boxes. tacking it up was a real job. i had to use a thumb tack about every 3 inches for a piece of mylar that's 4 feet high by 8 1/2 long! because it's basically bubble wrap, it didn't want to let the tacks go all the way in and spit a few dozen of them back out. i backed each tack up with a little square of 3/4 inch masking tape hopefully to keep the mylar from tearing. it weighs practically nothing, but it doesn't like bending or flattening. between some tacks getting spit out, others breaking and some that just didn't want to go in where i wanted them, my thumb was freakin' sore by the time i was done. it was worth it though. when i checked it from outside last night, i saw no leakage at all and the curtains looked normal. this morning i went back to double check leakage with more powerful sunlight and saw only one little leak that i fixed with a tack in the gap. other than that, there were only the tiniest hairline leaks and those are probably from light being reflected back and forth between the mylar and white wall to the seams which are all at least half a foot over the window frame. to be safe i'll just go over the seam either with the 2 inch blue masking tape i originally bought to tape the mylar up or see if i can find some black tape. i could also use low tech tin foil if i have to. i don't think light leakage will really be an issue. what little light that might escape would be so dim as to not even show up against the city lights. i'm just hoping that the mylar settles to it's new shape and doesn't push any more tacks out. with a few hundred tacks pushing it in, i think it will hold. if nothing else, sealing the perimeter with blue tape should give it an extra bit of holding. i'll get pics of the setup before i move the grow in there. right now my thumb is sore and i don't want to look at that cause of a couple hours of misery just yet. LOL now, i think it might have been better to build the cardboard lightbox frame i had considered. i could have just hung it on the curtain rod and easily pulled it down if the landlord ever comes by. hopefully if he does now, i'll just tell him that i'm trying to insulate the room from cold with the heat off and he'll by it. i have a ton of boxes of stuff to put in there to make it look like a storage room if necessary. in fact, i need to move those same boxes out of the way when it's time to use it for the grow. BTW here's where all of the beans in the grow came from: Spice Brothers C99 Splash $30-$35 (A11g X Lien Huanh) X A11g $55 Serious Seeds Kali Mist $105 Soma's Sacred Seeds Buddha's Sister $110 (possibly crossed with G13 Haze per the little note on the package. SHIT! i wanted PURE Buddha's Sister for my own breeding even if G13 haze is ass kicking shit too) Vancouver Island Seedbank Burmese $55 Sativa Seedbank Mixed Sativa $20 one named strain and not the mix of several that i thought it was. i REALLY wanted their mexican sativa and thought i'd get a couple of those. it's all good though. they only cost $20 and this strain is DEFINATELY a sativa) High Quality Seeds Haze Skunk $25 Nirvana Bubblicious $17 California Orange Skunk $17 Pure Power Plant $17 Doctor Chronic Troublemaker (freebies with 1st C99 Splash order) Flumpy's Lowdown Mystery (doc freebies with Buddha's Sister order) both batches of durban skunk (SADP x skunk #1) freebies that i got with my nirvana & kali mist orders from seedboutique were 0% viable. i'd read somewhere that they are over 10 years old. i got good deals on the beans that i bought and fast shipping, but it would have been nice to get some compact 87.5% sativa. after the 1st batch failed, it inspired me to place the haze skunk order with doc. i got the burmese from kindseed.com. they had the best price i could find and neither doc nor gypsy had it. got my beans in 9 days there. __________________ Q: Why are they called "horny toads"? A: "Rub it! Rub it! Rub it! Rub it!"