[BlazinX1]

I suspose this could be true, except I don't think there are genes that determine if we have the ability to kill ourself or not, so while we may be weeding out the "week" people, I don't think that it will lead to creating any stronger of a race.

I've had some pretty shitty luck right now, I've contemplated killing myself, hell I even have a gun, but I've never come so far to put it to my head. So that means that despite whats going on in my life I mustn't have the gene that makes me able to kill myself. However, if it came down to a situation where I could either kill myself, or have a ton of people I truly loved and cared about me killed, I think I would be able to pull the trigger.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the majority of the population would kill them self in that situation, to save those they truely love. For those of you with long relationships, married, or have children, wouldn't you kill yourself to save their life? Think of Armageddon.

Anyways, if we all killed ourself to save others, wouldn't that be a trait that we want to save, not destroy. At the same time there would be cowardice people who wouldn't have the ability to pull the trigger, even if it meant saving alot more people, people who they love. So essentially wouldn't the type of people we don't want, be the ones who live in such a situation, and be reverse natural selection?

I think that people commit suicide based on the experiences in their life, and it doesn't have to do with genetics. There are plenty of genetically strong people who do kill them self, and plenty of people that don't deserve to walk this Earth based on my standards (child rapists, psycho's, mass murderers) yet they are still alive.

Edit: Argument against my argument (this way other people can't make it)
The point of natural selection is to do what will ultimately lead to the survival of the species, so it could be argued that those who do not kill them self in the above situation are in fact the best for natural selection, since they do whatever it takes to survive, even if that means allowing others to die.

However, I feel the difference lies with humans, seeing as humans we have the ability to think complexly, we should be able to see that killing yourself to save others, is more important than our own survival, and essentially the person should kill them self.