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Originally Posted by bkadoctaj
And Zylark, what are you doing in this thread I began then if it's not worth talking about?
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Not what I said. What I said was that discussing semantics is useless. Do you disagree?
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Originally Posted by bkadoctaj
So you know for sure there is nothing outside the Universe?
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Yes.
Ofcourse it depends upon what one mean by universe. Most commonly defined as everything that physically exists. That may quite granted lead us down roads to M-Theory (hypothesis) or other multiverse speculations. But nonetheless, if it is not physically there, how can we learn about it? And on the opposite side of that coin, what is nothing, but the lack of existence? By definition really.
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Excuse me, but concepts shape our perception of reality as human beings. No two people see the same thing the same way.
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Ah yes. the "subjective reality" canard. Granted, we could all live in a simulation that revolves around you or me personally, and we'd be none the wizer. Won't get us very far though will it? Raise your hands up in despair and shout, "I don't believe it, cannot be true!!!!" and you might find peace in yourself. That do not have to correspond with actual reality however. That is why we got little things as science. To reach an objective understanding of reality as opposed to subjective personal guessing based upon bias. And believe it or not, science got proof regarding reality that will not change no matter how much or little one believe in them.
Reality is that which do not disappear once you stop believing in it.
And as a last point. Math isn't flawed as such. Math is a language. Go look for paradoxes, and you will find it. Don't need much knowledge of math to do that. But know math intimatly, you will see its beauty, it's coherence.
Personally, I'm not that much into math as such. And I'd certainly never use it to abuse it. As you do with your 0:1 and 1:2 argument. Discussing the semantics of math, shees.
If you use math as a concept, yes you are right. One is infinite more than zero. And vice versa. Zero is infinite less than one. Yay. Concepts confuse, I know
If you use math as a practical tool, you'd know that 2 kilos of weed is the same increment from 1 kilo of weed, that 1 kilo of weed is from 0 kilo of weed. Pragmatics simplify, I know.