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Originally Posted by weedseed
1) I didn't say it was proven. I said that other scientific evidences support it (such as GR)
2) I agree that it may very well be impossible to say what the source of the Big Bang was--But I, personally can say beyond reasonable doubt that it wouldn't be a natural cause given other evidences. I don't think new physics would help as far as a first cause goes.
3) Heisenberg's uncertainty principle eh. I think he was saying that any measuring process involves an interaction which would alter the values to atleast some extent. Thats not to say that we can't get extremely close though (dare I say close enough?  ) |
General relativity supports the big bang theory part of the time. Once a theory fails, we know that it does not describe the universe in full, it may fail elsewhere even. We use Newton's laws because they are applicable in many cases, but we certainly don't take them seriously as the defining laws of nature. I certainly agree, general relativity is great circumstantial evidence of the big bang.
What I do not agree with is how any of this shows that something outside of nature caused the universe to be as it is. How can you say beyond a reasonable doubt that something natural did not cause the bang? I would like to hear your reasoning because I see no evidence that shows some brilliant mind in the future cannot physically describe what happened (or prove that it is impossible to know). I see no proof that there were no strange laws of nature before the big bang just as I see no proof that there were no laws at all before the big bang. At this point in science, this is essentially a philosophical question to consider.
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle defines how close we can never be to knowing what is happening. This is beside the point as I use uncertainty more as an example that the laws of physics sometimes tell us that we can never know certain things about the universe. Perhaps there are other limits in knowledge we have yet to discover.
I would like to point out that I am a big fan of the big bang theory and I am not trying to say that supernatural powers do not exist. Perhaps the supernatural power created something and that something led to the big bang. Or it created something that led to something...that led to something that led to the big bang.
It is most important in science to keep an open mind about what is possible until there is any legitimate proof.