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Originally Posted by JesusC

Its not about being stuck on earth.


What im saying is that as long as there is something alive within it, the Universe exists. Whether or not its a simple living orgainism or a complex intelligent orgainism doesnt really matter, life gives existence to the Universe.....just as the Universe gives existence to life.

If nothing was alive to experience this place in one form or another, this place wouldnt exist....it couldnt.

Think about it...

When you die, what will exist to you? When every living thing here on earth is gone, what will exist to earthly beings? If every living thing within the Universe was no longer alive, how could the Universe still exist?

All im saying is that if nothing ever came into the form of life here in the Universe, how could you possibly claim this place would still exist? In order for existence to even become a possiblity, wouldnt you agree that something has to be aware of existence itself.....again, in whatever form that may be?

Unless the Universe itself is self-aware, I dont believe the Universe can actually exist without something to recognize that its here.

This isnt about things that happen from one end of the Universe to the next (ie merging galaxies), this is about the Universe itself. Something somewhere had to be aware that it is here, otherwise it cant exist.



I guess the biggest question is this: What if life never happend? What if life never played a role in the Universe from beginning to end (assuming there is one)? How could you claim the Universe would/could exist without it? How could it exist without something to know its here?

but the Universe itself is alive...some kind of organism in itself...it's language is what we call physics...gravity makes things naturally interact along with all other forces...i see this as a natural form of communication...i think your question is "what if OUR life never happened?"..in which case, no one knows..but we don't really have any effect on how the universe has been played out...who's to say it can or can't exist under certain parameters