[amsterdamage]

hey J. I'm really glad you posted cos I've got a few questions I've been wanting to ask a person who takes no drugs. You see I just don't understand you guys, I mean I respect you as much as I respect people who take drugs but I just don't understand you.

Actually before I go further, are you saying you don't take illicit drugs or are you saying you don't take drugs at all? I could understand you a bit if you take caffeine, tobacco and alcohol, but I can't even begin to understand you if you do truly take no drugs.

If you use tobacco and like to get drunk then I have to ask you why would you use drugs that are addictive and deadly instead of using marijuana which at the very most is just habitually addictive and which has never killed a single person? If you've tried it and it didn't agree with you then I understand that, I had a good friend who was just like that, but if you've never tried it and never want to then I can't understand that one little bit.


Humans are just starting to get to know what we truly are, all the breakthroughs happening these days are just the tip of the iceberg, there's so very much more that's going to be discovered over even just the next 100,000 years. So it's never a surprise to me when we discover that things we take for granted about ourselves are just an illusion. If you've ever read Animals and Psychedelics by Giorgio Samorini you'll have read about wild animals deliberately seeking to get intoxicated. Although there's a distinct lack of hard evidence, it doesn't seem unreasonable to suppose that the wild animals Homo sapiens descended from also had a natural drive to seek mood-altering experiences. This would therefore make it a natural drive for humans and would mean that we've had this drive for the entirety of our existence. In fact the drive to experience altered states of consciousness is currently being recognized as being equal with the drives for food, security and sex.

So you see I don't understand when I meet someone who takes no drugs. I'm aware that the other drives are experienced in different people to a higher or lesser degree, so could it simply be the same thing as people with a low sex drive?

I really didn't understand what you were trying to say in your post, but I'll address the things I did understand:

It seems a lot of people start smoking pot due to social pressure

- this is incorrect, the vast majority of people start smoking pot due to the fact that it's the safest mood altering substance on the planet, and the experience it gives is very enlightening and pleasant.

it seems like the cool thing to do which will make you popular somehow

- this is incorrect, smoking is neither cool nor not cool, it's a personal thing people do and while we enjoy smoking with friends we certainly don't smoke to make friends.

the alienation that would cause from one's friends would be more the factor that would drive one to harder drugs

- I didn't quite understand this sentence, are you saying that using marijuana makes us alienated so we then move onto harder drugs? The problem with this is marijuana doesn't make us alienated, it's very much a social drug. The vast majority of smokers have no interest in harder drugs, those people who do have an interest may smoke or may not, there never has been a causal effect.

This post is definitely long enough, I hope you have time to give me some insight into your type of people, it'd be very welcome.