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Originally Posted by Mr.GoodStuff

I believe God willingly accepted the challenge and is part of the reason I've been upset with Him lately... I wish He would just go easy on Himself for once, give Himself a break. Maybe eternity is just so long He cracks along the line and just wants to fight for a long time. Who knows? .

It seems folly for a supremely wise God with omnicience and eternal concious to willfully accept a challenge which has so many taxing future consequences (on himself and his subjects/creation). Mayble its like phiegnux has said - God was just - bored?

Originally Posted by Mr.GoodStuff

I like to believe The Creator and The Destroyer are twin brothers and they need each other to exist. It's just the way it goes, can't have black without white.

So what are your concepts of Heaven? seeing as evil is permantly erradicated out of the way?

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

God did create evil, even the Bible is clear on that.
Of course, Christian backpedaling would say that god did not create evil because evil is not a tangible thing, this of course contradicts what god himself apparently said...

Originally Posted by Perpetual Burn

Yeah, it's rather simple reasoning. If God created everything, then God created evil. If God created evil, then God is evil..

It seems we can say this in this argument, did God allow satan to gain power? if so, god is more evil than satan.

Then Does satan too have free will? he was given the power to be a God over the creator's creation... the creator allowed evil, the creator is evil.
ie.

1. God allowed evil to deceive,
2. God fornew evil's concequences,
3. God punishes evil and those deceived by it,
4. Then God is evil.

Originally Posted by shasta

Satan grew to his exalted position because god allowed him to when he granted people with free will. He gave people the choice of being good or bad, when people choose to be bad then satan gains ground.

So God willfully accepted the challenge. Then it would be safe to say that he is seemingly more corrupt and evil than satan himself, - because foreknowing the future outcomes of evil which would come to mankind - (eternal damnation) he willfully accepted the challenge and dubed free will with it in the matter.

So we are all deceived then? by God first and then by satan? if this is so and God is the only being who knows the future, then we are all (even satan himself) just deceived. (by ignorance of the future) and just partakers of something God had already set and known already from the beginning prior to the events taking place and accepting the challenge of evil.

Satan himself then is deceived, and if this is so.. then God himself is the deceiver, and the originator of all evil - ( ie. knowing a mass murder would happen prior to it taking place and not doing much about it , could arguably be seen as an ethically worse crimiminal than the murderer. )

Originally Posted by Perpetual Burn

Man created God in his image.

We could says that the personification of evil (as Satan) is merely a cop-out for people to blame their own evil on a being other than themself, Its arguable that it is a ruse merely to negate responsibility for our actions and thoughts.