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Originally Posted by yeshli2nuts

So why could the universe always have existed but god couldn't have always existed? I dont believe in religion but I do believe in some sort of god or higher power. I've done a lot of reading on this subject and it has been proved that there was a creation. The cosmic microwave background radiation is the echo of the big bang. If there was a creation, there must be a creator. While it may not be the all powerful god of Christians, Muslims, Jews, or whatever, theres gotta be some kind of force that put all this together. And the law of conservation of mass only applies to our 4 dimensional universe (space and time). God is outside the laws of space and time, thus laws of science don't apply to what god could do, thus creation is very possible. I'll end with one of my favorite quotes on the subject: with enough time, the impossible becomes possible, the possible probable, and the probable certain.

exactly...some people miss that point entirely.