[jonathan]

liquidtruth:

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Evolution is not a working scientific theory, in fact by defenition it's not even a theory. And I won't move on because evolution hasn't moved on.
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You clearly do not understand what a scientific theory is, and you clearly have little to no understanding of evolution.

Yes, I do. I think the defenition you posted is rather self defeatist. Theory of reletivity, theory of gravity, those are true theories, and they can be tested repeatably and their results have been recorded.

When it comes to the past, empircal science has major limitations. That's why when it comes to origins, it's totally different than normally operated empirical science.

Do some reading on Evolution. Oh, and please, stay away from AnswersInGenesis.org if you actually want to learn useful info on evolution, like the truth.

This is ad hominem, and you give no reason why it should be avoided.Aig is a profession organization with phd scientists who many of whom have earned thier degrees at secular colleges. They also have built a world class museum and have a scientific Journal.

You're obviously not thinking hard enough. Compassion and love make perfect logical sense, because they help bind us to one another. We live in groups, that is how we survive, without compassion, love, and all that jazz, we would have a very hard time getting along in our groups and would not survive for very long. Spock may say that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one, I, however, would say that the needs of the many are the needs of the one.

You're not looking at the bigger picture. You're talking about self-preservation, but
darwinian evolution is a hypothesis of biological change over periods of time.The mechanism for these things, how we get better and evolve in darwinian evolution is fueled through survival of the fittest, preservation of the strong, and weeding out the weak. That is always what is has been about. There's no love in that. And evolution can't see ahead, and think to itself, " If we all just love each other then survival will be better." Which is really a lie anyways according to the philosophy of evolution that type of scenario would keep new characteristics from emerging. It is dependant on eugenics and death. It is a blind process. It's also important to remember than humans are very different in thier social organizations than other animals.

Most animals are about pure survival.

By that logic we should round up every Bible on the planet and destroy it, because it is only a matter of time before some nut job happens by and gets all sorts of crazy ideas from it. ***, we should burn all the books and make reading and passing on knowledge illegal as well. Never know when a nut job might learn something dangerous. Oh my.

The bible does not teach rascism, eugenics, or sexism. Evolution does. It's only hidden from a public that has not come to grips with reality. Information is not assimilated by itself in our minds. It is always added as part of our personal view or philosophy in life. Our biases and philosophies give us direction.