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Originally Posted by jonathan  Azimuthal, I think comparing it to the moral standards of today it is irrelevant. It is just plain wrong. |
It is not wrong. Darwin's motives were not racial and sexiest. He (to my knowledge) did not set out to prove the superiority of men and the white race. If that was his intention, then he did not prove that at all and came upon one of the greatest discoveries science has made.
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Originally Posted by jonathan I also blame the holocaust on darwin, but not just one him but also martin Luther and everyone who listened to these idiots. That nazi article is by no means disingenuous, It's very accurate. |
You blame the Holocaust on Darwin? Funny... I blame it on Hitler, the Nazi's, and the German people. Hitler had his agenda, and he would have found some bullshit reason to do what he wanted. In this case, he jumped on a pseudo science bandwagon, not the fault of Darwin, nor of evolution, and quite simply, one of many in a list of bullshit excuses. Hitler was a Christian you know... Perhaps it was the Bible that encouraged him to these acts? Perhaps Hitler was simply fucked in the head?
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Originally Posted by jonathan Evolution is not a working scientific theory, in fact by defenition it's not even a theory. And I won't move on because evolution hasn't moved on. |
You clearly do not understand what a scientific theory is, and you clearly have little to no understanding of evolution.
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
In common usage, people often use the word theory to signify a conjecture, an opinion, or a speculation. In this usage, a theory is not necessarily based on facts; in other words, it is not required to be consistent with true descriptions of reality. True descriptions of reality are more reflectively understood as statements which would be true independently of what people think about them. In this usage, the word is synonymous with hypothesis.
In science, a theory is a mathematical or logical explanation, or a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theories commonly used to describe and explain this behaviour are Newton's theory of universal gravitation (see also gravitation), and general relativity. |
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Originally Posted by jonathan This rascism, sexism, eugenics are all inseperable parts of Darwinian evolution. |
Do some reading on Evolution. Oh, and please, stay away from AnswersInGenesis.org if you actually want to learn useful info on evolution, like the truth.
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Originally Posted by jonathan People can ignore it ,but it just doesn't make logical sense. If we live in a totally naturalistic world with no Spiritual Truth, protection of the weak, and love and compassion make no logical sense. |
You're obviously not thinking hard enough. Compassion and love make perfect logical sense, because they help bind us to one another. We live in groups, that is how we survive, without compassion, love, and all that jazz, we would have a very hard time getting along in our groups and would not survive for very long. Spock may say that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one, I, however, would say that the needs of the many are the needs of the one.
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Originally Posted by jonathan Kids are shown schildlers list and they go through this numerous times throughout school so they learn from the past and it will "never happen again", but they're not learning from the past, they don't understand that Hitler understood the implications and so do all these communist leaders, and so did all the slaveowners and sexist fools like Darwin. |
So, Hitler decide to hate Jews simply because of Darwin's theory. Funny, I have never found the section on the imperfection of the Jewish people. Perhaps you could point it out for me?
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Originally Posted by jonathan It's only waiting to become unleashed again, unless people learn and recognise the implications. Sooner or later someones going to come along, someone angry in power, over an angry nation like germany in Hitlers day. They'll understand the implications, and they'll justify it, because when things were going nice, they felt no
motivation to appraoch these moral challanges, but then they're forced to recognise the implications to make serious decisions. Of course it's the wrong decision, but they've chosen that path, and that's where it leads. |
By that logic we should round up every Bible on the planet and destroy it, because it is only a matter of time before some nut job happens by and gets all sorts of crazy ideas from it. Hell, we should burn all the books and make reading and passing on knowledge illegal as well. Never know when a nut job might learn something dangerous. Oh my.
Your argument is illogical and built upon fallacy.