[Liquidtruth]

In case no one read through the first article I posted, I thought I would add this seeing how it is very relevant to what we are discussing and what some people seem to feel is a solid idea.

Originally Posted by http://www.nap.edu/html/creationism/evidence.html

Special creationists argue that "no one has seen evolution occur." This misses the point about how science tests hypotheses. We don't see Earth going around the sun or the atoms that make up matter. We "see" their consequences. Scientists infer that atoms exist and Earth revolves because they have tested predictions derived from these concepts by extensive observation and experimentation.

Furthermore, on a minor scale, we "experience" evolution occurring every day. The annual changes in influenza viruses and the emergence of antibiotic-resistant bacteria are both products of evolutionary forces. Indeed, the rapidity with which organisms with short generation times, such as bacteria and viruses, can evolve under the influence of their environments is of great medical significance. Many laboratory experiments have shown that, because of mutation and natural selection, such microorganisms can change in specific ways from those of immediately preceding generations.

And as Rasta_Man posted in another thread.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

In science, a theory is a mathematical or logical explanation, or a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theory which explains why the apple behaves so is the current theory of gravitation.

So this importance people seem to place on the idea that the Theory of Evolution is just a theory, makes no logical sense and is derived from a misunderstanding of what a scientific theory is. That, is also a fact.

Originally Posted by Rasta_Man

I really dig your take on it, Liquid.

If somebody said that to me, AND that they believed in a creator God; I'd have nothing against them.

You call it God, I call it natural processes, it's the same thing.

I allow for the possibility of a creator being a consciousness (either a singular one, or multiple as in many beings (could even be people in some other universe )), or simply a natural process with no intellect at all. We do not understand enough yet to make a definitive statement. Currently, I am on the side of a consciousness (singular), but I am not so married to that idea that I would ignore evidence as it arrives.