[budburner]

Originally posted by sidious
this is what i don't get.....why don't all the American public stand up and say....nooooo way....here in the u.k. you are innocent until proven guilty....

Same here. The trick here is to realize that honesty is not the best policy. Keep your lips shut and hire a lawyer and you'll be better off 100% of the time, rather than pleading guilty.

i mean if i had a bong or pipe or anything for smoking then it's up to the police to prove that it has been used for illegill substances, and even better than that, they have to prove that it was me who smoked it..

Same here. There is a HUMONGOUS difference between getting arrested and getting convicted. Always always always remember that.

......any of these products could be used for smoking tobacco, i men where do they draw the line..

When it has been used for illegal purposes or is in the vacinity of illegal substances where the assumption can be made that it was probably going to be used for illegal purposes. (again... big diff between arrested and convicted)

..and old man smoking a pipe, is he doing something ilegill???...it is a pipe after all....it could be used for cannabis?

If there is no marijuana around to connect with the pipe, it's legal. Once you've crossed the criminal line by possessing marijuana, then you open the door to more trouble with stuff like this. If you're smoking a pipe, don't have pot on you. Easy enough.

i don't mean this to be aimed at Americans for not doing anything, i just read it and realised it sounded like that, but surely if you went up for having a bong in your possession, then you could say....well prove that i smoked from it!! other than getting caught red handed, all you have is a bit of glass!!.....Peace out....Sid

And nobody gets busted for having glass. There are about 300 million Americans today. To read responses from fewer than 100 Americans doesn't provide enough information to justify that we are doing nothing. For the most part, what is there to do? Even if we are able to pass something on the state level.. we still have the feds down our pants.

We are doing something. In fact, I sincerely think marijuana will be decriminalized in my lifetime in America. It's just a matter of all the die-hards finally kicking the bucket. They just have it engrained in their brains that marijuana is a danger. There is more pro-legalization talk than ever... thank you internet.

Here in the states, it doesn't have to be proven that YOU smoked out of a bong for you to be in trouble for possessing it. If it is on your person and it has resin in it, you're busted for possessing paraphernalia. You aren't busted for marijuana use if you are only possessing paraphernalia.