[flower_child]

Shouse, IGotTheCottons is very knowledgeable on the bible and everything pertaining to it. He's a great help in these threads.

Jesus did technically found the catholic church, though I want to say that Peter was the head. I need to check my facts. Either way, it started out as a good church, but it "blended" with paganism to make everyone in Rome happy, but instead of blending (which was bad enough), it was pretty much taken over by paganism. Hence the crusades, etc.

I may have misunderstood you though, anyway, because the rest of your post is excellent.

While I'm here, books that were "Banned" from the bible, were "Banned" (more like left out) for a reason. That reason is that they appear to have been edited many times, and their is no proof that the author is who (s)he says (s)he is. There is evidence, however, at least for a number of those books, that someone else wrote them.

I'm not sure how the OP didn't find Enoch interesting. I think it's a fascinating book. It recounts the flood from a different perspective, and gives a different account of the end of the world (that latter part may be a little misguided...it's been a while.) However fascinating it is, we can't accept it as inspired because we can't be sure that Enoch wrote it. We do know that Enoch was very favorable in God's eyes, and was taken up to heaven without experiancing death.

I do believe that the book of Enoch is included in some publishings of the Apocrypha.

I'm off to refresh my memory of these books. (internet willing).